Beneath MarketingSeason 1Episode 5

The lunch customer isn’t the late-night customer, even when it’s the same man

In short: “Men 25–40” isn’t a segment. Segment by occasion and job, and menu, price, channel and branch format follow. The season 1 finale.

Segment your market by occasion, not by age and gender

Abstract

“Men aged 25 to 40 in Riyadh” isn’t a segment. It’s a census line. The segment that helps you is the occasion: the job the customer came to get done right now. Change how you segment, and your menu, price, channel and branch format change with it.

Before you sign the next site, name the occasion it will serve: a work lunch is not a night out with friends, and each changes the branch’s format and channel.

When to come back to this episode: Before you design a new menu or branch format, or when someone shows you a segment defined by age and gender.

The scene: one man, two restaurants

Composite scene, not a specific customer

Monday, 1:10 pm. Fahad, in thobe and shemagh, with three colleagues. They have an hour for lunch, a quarter of it in the car. They want a table now, food within minutes, a bill that’s easy to split and parking close by. Nobody wants surprises.

Thursday, 11 pm. The same Fahad, in the family section, with his wife, his mother, his sister and three children. They want a table for eight, privacy, dishes the whole table can share, something the youngest will eat, and nobody rushing them. The bill isn’t his first worry. His worry is getting through the night without embarrassment in front of his mother.

In your loyalty data he’s one customer: male, 34, Riyadh. In the marketing plan he sits inside “men 25 to 40”. Both descriptions are true, and neither tells you what to cook, what to charge or how to lay out the room.

The image: same thobe, different job

Put the two pictures of Fahad side by side: 1 pm and 11 pm. Same face, same thobe, same phone. The only thing that changed is why he came. At lunch he came to get a work meal done fast and get back to his meeting. At night he came to gather the family and honour his mother.

These are two different customers in one person. Sell to “Fahad” and you get it wrong twice. Sell to “the work lunch” and “the family night” and you get it right twice.

Chart

Same thobe, different job

In your loyalty data: one customer, male, 34, Riyadh

Monday 1:10 pm · work lunch

Monday 1:10 pm · work lunchFahad and three colleagues. One hour, a quarter of it in the car.carmeal
Who
Fahad and three colleagues
Time
One hour, a quarter of it in the car
Table
A table now
Bill
Easy to split

Thursday 11 pm · family night

Thursday 11 pm · family nightFahad, his wife, his mother, his sister and three children. Nobody rushing them.no rush
Who
Fahad, his wife, his mother, his sister and three children
Time
Nobody rushing them
Table
A table for eight, and privacy
Bill
Not his first worry
Data as a table
Work lunchFamily night
People47
WhoFahad and three colleaguesFahad, his wife, his mother, his sister and three children
TimeOne hour, a quarter of it in the carNobody rushing them
TableA table nowA table for eight, and privacy
BillEasy to splitNot his first worry
Sell to “Fahad” and you get it wrong twice. Sell to “the work lunch” and “the family night” and you get it right twice.

The idea beneath

Clayton Christensen and his colleagues put it in a line that became famous: people don’t buy products, they “hire” them to get a job done in a particular circumstance.1 The circumstance explains the purchase better than the buyer’s attributes. Fahad’s age doesn’t change between noon and midnight. His job does.

Ten years earlier, Daniel Yankelovich and David Meer wrote that market segmentation had lost its way.2 Segments built on age, income and personality look elegant in a presentation, but they rarely predict what people will buy. They argued that every segmentation should be built around a specific decision you want to make. If it doesn’t help you decide something, it’s decoration.

The evidence is in our calendar. According to Arab News reporting of Saudi Central Bank (SAMA) data, food and beverage spending jumped 74.9% week on week in the week before Ramadan 2025.3 In one Ramadan week, the same source reported restaurant and café spending down 28.3% while groceries rose.4 Same people, same ages, same salaries, same neighbourhoods. What changed was the occasion: iftar and suhoor at home, the ghabga instead of dinner out. Segment by age and you’ll never see that shift. Segment by occasion and you’ll see it coming.

And our occasions keep their own hours. A Saudi study of meal-timing habits, based on what participants reported about themselves, pointed to late dinners and skipped breakfasts being common.5 In other words, the late night here isn’t an exception. It’s a full occasion with its own demand.

Saudi Arabia also has an old example of occasion-based segmentation we never noticed: the family section and the singles section.6 The restaurant split its room not by the customer’s age or income but by one question: who’s with you tonight? That is exactly what an occasion is.

Where the money leaks

Serve every occasion with one menu, one price and one branch format, and you pay in four places.

The menu. The lunch customer flips through pages of sharing dishes and orders something that takes twenty minutes. The late-night family can’t find a big platter for the table, so they order ten individual plates and the kitchen falls behind.

The price. Lunch is a per-head budget; the family night is value per table. A 20% discount for everyone subsidises a family that was coming on Thursday night anyway, and doesn’t persuade an employee on a fixed budget. (And did the offer bring in sales at all? That was Episode 2’s question.)

The channel. The lunch job may be done better by pre-ordered pickup or delivery to the office, the ghabga job by trays booked two days ahead. One channel for everyone means half the jobs get done badly. And every channel is judged by its contribution after commission, not its revenue.7

The branch format. A branch in the office district has lunch as its main job, a branch in a residential area has the late night, a branch on a highway has the drive-up pickup. Copying the flagship everywhere means tables for four where you need eight, and a big dining room where people needed parking. That’s why we treat each branch as its own unit with its own P&L,8 and test a neighbourhood’s job through delivery before signing a lease.9

SimulatorIllustrative

Fahad at 1 pm, Fahad at 11 pm

One dining room, two hours: at 1 pm every lunch group finds a table; at 11 pm four families stand at the door. Move the tables until the main occasion finds its table.

The dining room

tables
tables
tables
This branch’s main occasion

Work lunch

of 20
12 parties

Family night

of 20
6 parties
Monday 1:10 pm: the work lunch12 of 12 lunch parties seated, 0 without a table.Thursday 11 pm: the family night2 of 6 family parties seated, 4 without a table.

Result at the default values (turn on JavaScript to move the numbers).

Tables that fit the work lunch
72.7%
Tables that fit the family night
9.1%
Work lunch: seated and without a table
12 seated, 0 without a table
Family night: seated and without a table
2 seated, 4 without a table

Stop The main occasion can’t find its table: 4 of 6 family-night parties have no table for 7. The layout is working against you; change it before any campaign.

Rule source: A rule from the episode: branch fit

The party sizes come from the scene: Fahad and three colleagues (4), and Fahad’s family (7) needing “a table for eight”. Table and party counts are illustrative; one seating in the peak hour, no table turns.

No benchmark number; the rule is: does the main occasion find its table?

Data as a table
The two occasions at the peak hour
OccasionParty sizePartiesTables that fitSeatedWithout a table
the work lunch41272.7%120
the family night769.1%24
How it’s calculated
  1. A table fits a party if it seats it: a 2-top up to 2, a 4-top up to 4, an 8-top up to 8
  2. Share that fits = fitting tables ÷ all tables (without joins)
  3. With joins: two 4-tops serve a party of 5 to 8; two 2-tops serve a party of 3 to 4
  4. Seated = the smaller of the parties and the tables available to them
Notice: the same tables serve lunch and fail the night. Swap a few 4-tops for 8-tops and watch the families come in.

The Sunday-morning question

The question: What job did people hire us for this week?

Three occasion measures

The metricHow to calculate itThe decision rule
Sales by occasionFrom the POS: hour × party size × channel. Name the top 3 occasions for each branchEvery menu, price or promotion decision names the occasion it serves. A decision with no occasion isn’t approved
Contribution by occasionWhat’s left after food cost, labour and commission, for each occasionFix the big occasion with the weakest contribution before chasing a new one
Branch fitShare of tables that fit the typical party size of the branch’s main occasionIf the main occasion can’t find its table, the layout is working against you. Change it before any campaign

This week

  1. Pull the last 4 weeks of sales for one branch, by hour, party size and channel.
  2. Write the job of each of your top three occasions in one sentence: “When I…, I want…, so I can…”.
  3. Sit in the branch for an hour at lunch and an hour late at night, and ask: are the menu, the tables and the price designed for the people in front of me right now?

Credit, and the season finale

As always, the idea isn’t mine. The “job” comes from Clayton Christensen, Taddy Hall, Karen Dillon and David Duncan (2016),1 and the critique of age-and-income segments from Daniel Yankelovich and David Meer (2006).2 My share is the thobe, the shemagh and the family section.

This episode closes the first season of Beneath Marketing. Six ideas, one sentence each:

  • Episode 0: Your customer doesn’t fall down a funnel; they circle a roundabout, and their “no” usually means “not now”.
  • Episode 1: Price is a comparison in the customer’s head, which is why 29 riyals on the app isn’t 29 riyals in the branch.
  • Episode 2: Before you credit a promotion with the sales, ask whether they’d have come without it.
  • Episode 3: A campaign your operations can’t absorb sells a closed door.
  • Episode 4: A brand is an asset that lowers the cost of being chosen, if the customer recognises you in one second and in their moment.
  • Episode 5: Segment by occasion, not age, because lunchtime Fahad isn’t late-night Fahad.

Chart

Season 1 on one roundabout

Season 1 on one roundaboutA decision about menu, price, capacity and branch, not just an ad.A decision aboutmenu, price,capacity and branch,not just an ad.012345
Data as a table
EpisodeThe idea
Episode 0Your customer doesn’t fall down a funnel; they circle a roundabout, and their “no” usually means “not now”.
Episode 1Price is a comparison in the customer’s head, which is why 29 riyals on the app isn’t 29 riyals in the branch.
Episode 2Before you credit a promotion with the sales, ask whether they’d have come without it.
Episode 3A campaign your operations can’t absorb sells a closed door.
Episode 4A brand is an asset that lowers the cost of being chosen, if the customer recognises you in one second and in their moment.
Episode 5Segment by occasion, not age, because lunchtime Fahad isn’t late-night Fahad.
Six ideas, one thread.

One thread runs through all six: marketing that works beneath the surface is a decision about menu, price, capacity and branch, not just an ad. Season two is coming.

Sources and notes

  1. Clayton M. Christensen, Taddy Hall, Karen Dillon & David S. Duncan, “Know Your Customers’ ‘Jobs to Be Done’”, Harvard Business Review, September 2016 (and the book Competing Against Luck, 2016). hbr.org/2016/09/know-your-customers-jobs-to-be-done (opens in a new tab) 12

  2. Daniel Yankelovich & David Meer, “Rediscovering Market Segmentation”, Harvard Business Review, February 2006. hbr.org/2006/02/rediscovering-market-segmentation (opens in a new tab) 12

  3. Signal (press report of official data): Arab News, citing SAMA data, week before Ramadan 2025. arabnews.com/node/2592495/business-economy (opens in a new tab)

  4. Signal (press report of official data): Arab News, citing SAMA data, a Ramadan week. arabnews.com/node/2634644/business-economy (opens in a new tab)

  5. Signal (academic, self-reported data): AlMuammar et al., “Meal Timing Habits among Adults in Saudi Arabia”, Advances in Public Health, 2023. onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1155/2023/3932024 (opens in a new tab)

  6. Saudipedia, “Eating Habits in Saudi Arabia”. saudipedia.com/en/eating-habits-in-saudi-arabia (opens in a new tab)

  7. Revenue Engineering Doctrine: channel contribution.

  8. Revenue Engineering Doctrine: the branch as a unit, and Saudi Scale Playbook: Gate 2, site selection and catchment.

  9. Revenue Engineering Doctrine: Bridges Strategy, the location bridge.

Cite this

Code: BM S1.E5

English

Alhajj, S. (2026, September 29). The lunch customer isn’t the late-night customer, even when it’s the same man. Beneath Marketing, season 1, episode 5 (BM S1.E5). seiflden.com. https://seiflden.com/insights/lunch-vs-late-night/

Arabic

الحاج، سيف الدين (29 سبتمبر 2026). «عميل الغداء مو عميل السهرة، حتى لو نفس الشخص». «تحت التسويق»، الموسم 1، الحلقة 5 (BM S1.E5). seiflden.com. https://seiflden.com/ar/insights/lunch-vs-late-night/